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Dapat neutralize lang pag pumalag. Ganun naman talaga dapat di ba?
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Kaya sa US, meron na silang taser gun. Since marami na silang cases na nababaril o napapatay na alleged o mistaken. Sa ibang states pa nga naka body cam ang mga patrol units. audio at video ang recording.
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Minsan iniisip ko kung matutulungan siya ng Congress. Lalo na sa death penalty. Pustahan tayo, e-epal na naman ang Simbahan at ang Commission on Human Rights. Di ko alam kung seryoso si Digong sa "Double Hanging". Pano yun? Double Dead? Pwede naman lethal injection na lang uli. Kaso siguro hindi natatakot kaya di ko rin masisi kung minsan extreme yung trip ni Digong.
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i'm still apprehensive sa ibang plano ni digong. like appointing communist rebels in his cabinet. baka pag hindi nasunod ang gusto nila, eh baka sila na ang maging batas. digong should set an example to all of us. kung gusto mo sumunod ang mga tao sa batas dapat ikaw rin ipakita mo na sumusunod ka sa batas. yun naman ang mandato nya eh. uphold the law, not break it. gumagana naman ang justice system satin eh. yun nga lang, selective lang talaga sya. kung magagawa mong pantay-pantay ang lahat sa mata ng batas, tingin ko hindi mo na kelangan pa gumamit ng dahas.
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feeling ko gusto lang nya takutin ang mga high profile criminals & pipilitin talaga nyang hindi selective justice. tamaan yari.

Aminin na natin yung mga notorious criminals/drug lords (that still on the run or jailed) wala talagang takot. hangga't may hawak na pera, tao at koneksyon di makakaramdam ng takot. lumalakas pa nga loob nila dahil sa mga human rights advocates & pro-life groups that will side with them.

The religious are talking about 2nd chances. Pero how come yung mga nakulong na eh nakukuha pang magluto sa loob ng drugs at magbuhay hari sa bilibid. Kaya ka nga kinulong para mag-tanda at hindi mag-buhay hari. I'll be impressed if someone from being a self-confessed druglord converts into a pastor.

Kung lulusot ang death penalty either of the 3:
- By hanging (single hanging) - milagro makalusot.
- Lethal Injection
- Electric Chair

Hirap dito sa atin mahirap i-satisfy ang iba't-ibang sector ng society.
Lalo na yung simbahan. Lagi na lang sila may say sa bawat issue.
May separation of church & state nga pero sasabihin ng simbahan responsibility lang nila mag-remind.
Parang may "blurred" lines between church & state especially dito sa atin.
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Ganun lang talaga ang simbahan. May masasabi lagi. Pero sabi nga nila, pakinggan sila, salamat. Kung hindi, wala silang magagawa.
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yonsei55 wrote:i'm still apprehensive sa ibang plano ni digong. like appointing communist rebels in his cabinet. baka pag hindi nasunod ang gusto nila, eh baka sila na ang maging batas. digong should set an example to all of us. kung gusto mo sumunod ang mga tao sa batas dapat ikaw rin ipakita mo na sumusunod ka sa batas. yun naman ang mandato nya eh. uphold the law, not break it. gumagana naman ang justice system satin eh. yun nga lang, selective lang talaga sya. kung magagawa mong pantay-pantay ang lahat sa mata ng batas, tingin ko hindi mo na kelangan pa gumamit ng dahas.
That will not happen. These rebels are outlawed thus they will not be able to hold any position in the government may it be clerical work or a high position such as secretary of a given department and that is according to the Philippine constitution.
deathzero23 wrote:feeling ko gusto lang nya takutin ang mga high profile criminals & pipilitin talaga nyang hindi selective justice. tamaan yari.

Aminin na natin yung mga notorious criminals/drug lords (that still on the run or jailed) wala talagang takot. hangga't may hawak na pera, tao at koneksyon di makakaramdam ng takot. lumalakas pa nga loob nila dahil sa mga human rights advocates & pro-life groups that will side with them.

The religious are talking about 2nd chances. Pero how come yung mga nakulong na eh nakukuha pang magluto sa loob ng drugs at magbuhay hari sa bilibid. Kaya ka nga kinulong para mag-tanda at hindi mag-buhay hari. I'll be impressed if someone from being a self-confessed druglord converts into a pastor.

Kung lulusot ang death penalty either of the 3:
- By hanging (single hanging) - milagro makalusot.
- Lethal Injection
- Electric Chair

Hirap dito sa atin mahirap i-satisfy ang iba't-ibang sector ng society.
Lalo na yung simbahan. Lagi na lang sila may say sa bawat issue.
May separation of church & state nga pero sasabihin ng simbahan responsibility lang nila mag-remind.
Parang may "blurred" lines between church & state especially dito sa atin.
It's not about 2nd chances. Killing is killing no matter how you see it. Yes, it's been proven time and time again that death penalty as a deterrent does not work regardless if it is implemented quickly or not. Another problem with the death penalty is not a single justice system in the world can claim 100% effectiveness. There will be lapses and once those lapses occur, one cannot bring someone back to life. It just doesn't work that way.

Lethal Injection is hard to come by nowadays. Most pharmaceutical companies have already banned their products to be used for killing. Even Pfizer already backed away from providing their meds especially now that they are mostly a European country. This means we're back to the barbaric ways of killing people.

Also, though I'm Catholic and was raised one, my belief towards this is one of objectivity and not backed up by my religion. The problem with society now is the mob mentality.
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Ang ayaw ko lang eh yung simbahan minsan overboard.
Remember nung eleksyon, nagpost sila ng 1st to 5th choice to vote as president?
I thought they are just reminding pero minsan nag-cocondition na sila ng isip.
Naglabas pa sila ng Pastoral Letter nung May 8th, huwag daw iboto ang kumikitil ng buhay.

I don't want to undermine the late Cardinal Sin and EDSA 1.
Pero di ba siya nagpatawag ng "Go to EDSA"?
I believe EDSA 1 is more of a religious movement. Marami na lang sumakay to kickout a dictator.
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Tungkol sa panawagan nila na huwag bumoto ng kumikitil ng buhay, sana sinasabi rin nila yun sa mga nagnanakaw at bumibili ng boto.
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^yun nga eh.. Hahah.. minsan ang gulo ng CBCP.
Kaya minsan nagsisimba ako sa mga lugar na kilala yung pari na hindi namumulitika. Mas ok pa sila.
Kumpara sa pari sa quiapo na mahilig mamulitika pag sa sermon.

Kung di successful ang DP as a form of a "Discipline Kickstarter", eh gawin ni Digong, lahat ng lang may multa parang sa SG :lol:
Ewan ko na lang kung di lahat ng tao dito sumunod :lol:
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Therefore we should leave the Church out of the discussion and be objective about the subject. I already gave reasons why death penalty should not be implemented.
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Dito ko na lang iiwan ito... :lol:

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pabor din ako sa death penalty pero dun sa part sa sinabi nya na sa "mata ng panginoon" medyo naguluhan yata ako :sweat: parang conflicting yata and dating ... :shock:
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not suprised na nanalo si leni.. may nasagap din ako balita na mismong nagpatalo kay bbm eh mga kapwa ilokano din..medyo startling yung details kaya buti pa hindi ko na lang i-share dito yun pero malamang lalabas din sa balita yun eventually :sweat:
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Ok.. "Plan B" na :lol:
Congrats na lang kay Leni.
Well, tiwala ko na lang kung anong public service nila ni Jesse yun ang makita ko.
Wala akong tiwala sa mga tao sa likod nya. Mas ok kung kaya nya talikuran ang LP.

Kung bumoto kay BBM eh maybe because of brains and experience.
Kung may Davao City Model si Du30, may Ilocos Norte Model naman si BBM.
Pero yun nga, yung apelyido kasi eh. Pag nadinig eh turing sa kanila, pinakamasamang Pilipino na.

May comparison nga daw si BBM at Ninoy eh. Mga tumatakbo para linisin ang pangalan ng ama.
Kung si BBM para sa tatay nyang nagnakaw, si Ninoy daw eh para sa tatay nyang naging "Maka-Pili" noong panahon ng Hapon.
Kaya ganun daw ka-engage sa politics si Ninoy. For his dad. He'll do everything to clean his dad's tarnished image.
May history of Treason daw ang mga Aquino.

Infairness lang kay Leni, she never metioned Daang Matuwid in her campaign sorties.
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Isa ito sa mga post na sabi kong babalikan ko balang araw :lol:
deathzero23 wrote:^hahaha..
may dutertards na matino at hindi. we can't stop that.
I asked my officemates here na lahat pala du30, why him. they said:

Sawa na sila sa conventional politician na matamis magsalita pero di marunong tumupad ng kumpletong pangako in 6 years. Saka yung ramdam nila na nahahawakan sa leeg. Highlight nila yung FOI Bill. Moral Lesson na lang daw, wag na lang daw mangako kung di kaya tuparin. SYung realistic na lang daw at yung mararamdaman at makikita. Lalo na sa mga nagbabayad ng buwis nasasaktan sila magbayad ng tax, example yung expose ni Napoles. So majority felt disgusted that some of them want to punish all corrupt politician asap.

Gusto daw nila sumugal sa bago at kakaiba. New face new style of governance.
Someone they can identify with. And they see Davao City as a prime model.
Also the Mindanao votes. There's a report that 61% of Mindanao votes will favor Du30.

May nagreact sa akin na, sobrang HYPE kasi si PNoy noong 2010. Kaya bentang-benta ang Daang Matuwid.
Salamat sa media that set a very high expectation. Then nagkulang along the way, they felt dissatisfied.
FOI talaga yung isa sa mga driving factors ng frustration.

which is what also Miriam is saying:
http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/783458/mir ... -filipinos
You can disagree with MDS if you want...
From: http://news.abs-cbn.com/blogs/opinions/ ... stop-crime

His only explanation was, “If I cannot do it in six months, I will never be able to do it even if you give me 10 years.”

His running mate, Sen. Alan Cayetano, even said, if Duterte failed to achieve what they promised, they will resign.
Duterte asks for six-month extension on crime, drugs deadline

http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/58 ... G702I.dpuf

Dapat gumawa na tayo ng #Hype lang si Lord Digong thread :lol: :bigmouth:
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Bakit palagi ang pinu push ay emergency powers for Du30 to solve EDSA's woes?

Good luck Philippines...We're gonna need it..

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